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best car seat and stroller combo for twins Nuna DEMI Next + Rider Board Stroller Caviar

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best car seat and stroller combo for twins Nuna DEMI Next + Rider Board Stroller CaviarNuna DEMI Next TWIN Stroller + 2 PIPA RX PIPA Aire RX Car Seats + Rider Board Travel System The innovative and stylish Nuna DEMI Next is a convertible stroller that offers a multitude of configurations to accommodate the diverse needs of growing families. With clever compatibility and unsurpassed product quality and functionality, Nuna has designed multiple products that can be bundled to create flexible travel systems as your family's needs change.

Nuna® DEMI™ Next TWIN Stroller + 2 PIPA RX/PIPA Aire RX Car Seats + Rider Board Travel System

The innovative and stylish Nuna DEMI Next is a convertible stroller that offers a multitude of configurations to accommodate the diverse needs of growing families. With clever compatibility and unsurpassed product quality and functionality, Nuna has designed multiple products that can be bundled to create flexible travel systems as your family's needs change. This Nuna Travel System Bundle is perfect for twins and includes the stylish and multifunctional Nuna DEMI Next stroller with your choice of either two (2) Nuna PIPA Aire, Nuna PIPA RX, or Nuna PIPA Aire RX premium Infant Car Seats. This twin bundle also includes the Rider Board accessory for tag-a-long passengers and an additional sibling seat that transforms the DEMI Next into a comfy ride for two little passengers.

What’s Included:

  • Stroller frame
  • Stroller seat
  • Additional Sibling seat
  • Rider board
  • Infant car seat post adapters
  • Fenders
  • Rain cover
  • Two (2) Nuna PIPA infant car seats of your choice (either the PIPA Aire, PIPA RX or PIPA Aire RX)
  • Two (2) Nuna PIPA Series car seat bases (RELX Base for PIPA RX or PIPA Aire RX)
  • Two (2) DEMI Next ring car seat adapter
  • Two (2) Car Seat LATCH guides
  • Two (2) GOTS organic cotton infant inserts and harness cover sets (with PIPA Aire RX only)
  • Nuna's Manufacturer Warranty from defects: 2 years

DEMI Next Stroller:

Building upon the tremendous success and popularity of the original DEMI Grow Stroller, the clever folks at Nuna have delivered a new game-changer with the introduction of the innovative, newly-improved Nuna DEMI Next Stroller.

This next-generation premium stroller comes with an included Rider Board accessory for tag-a-long passengers, and is carefully crafted to grow seamlessly along with your family through all of life’s unpredictable possibilities. The DEMI Next is incredibly versatile, allowing you to easily convert from a single stroller to a double or twin, while delivering over 25 different modes of flexible riding possibilities.

With a creative, modular design, the DEMI Next is compatible with all Nuna series infant car seats and can easily be combined with several optional components. The add-on sibling seat quickly transforms the DEMI Next stroller into a comfy ride for two little passengers, while the convenient bassinet (sold separately) allows you to move effortlessly from stand to stroller, while maintaining the ultimate lie-flat comfort for the little one.

Packed with high-end features and loaded with sensible functionality, the Nuna DEMI Next is thoughtfully constructed with style, comfort and convenience in mind. It is the ultimate companion for modern family living, designed to grow with next-level possibilities.

DEMI Next vs. DEMI Grow Comparison:

Nuna has delivered several key improvements for the DEMI Next when comparing it to the first-generation DEMI Grow stroller.

DEMI Next comes with new Rider Board included
The clever new Rider Board creates additional flexibility and travel options for growing families. Included with the purchase of the new DEMI Next Stroller, the Rider Board easily attaches to the stroller and provides a safe riding platform for little passengers up to 50 lbs. With two swivel wheels for easy maneuvering, the Rider Board easily folds with the stroller and can be flipped into the stroller when not in use.

Larger Storage Basket
Making the most of your family journeys can often mean having enough room for all your essential goodies. The DEMI Next more than doubles the underseat basket capacity from 10 lbs. to 22 lbs., providing some serious, next-level space for all your essentials while on the go.

Redesigned Canopy
The updated Aire protect canopy™ now boasts ventilation panels and a full privacy cover all in one product. The built-in, airy mesh privacy drape and ventilation panels in the canopy provide for optimal airflow and sustained comfort.

New 4-Position Recline
Easily adjust the recline with one hand to one of four recline positions available with the DEMI Next. Provide maximum comfort for the little one with an upright backrest angle for comfortable, just-right rides.

New Footrest Design
One-hand adjustable calf support and the new footrest design provides optimal comfort and accommodates growing little ones.

Larger Front Wheels
The front wheel size has been increased by 1 inch to 8.5 inches on the DEMI Next to provide for optimal maneuverability and flexibility. The wide, swivel-lock front wheels are tough, foam-filled and ready for any terrain.

Usage From Birth
Furthering the DEMI Grow usage recommendation, the DEMI Next can be utilized from birth to 50 lbs.

DEMI Next Stroller Modular Options:

With the addition of the included Rider Board, the DEMI Next is arguably the most versatile stroller on the market. With an incredibly flexible and adaptable design, the new DEMI Next can be configured into an amazing 25 possible modular combinations in both single and double modes. The Nuna DEMI Next is also compatible with all Pipa series infant car seats and works seamlessly with the additional DEMI Next Sibling Seat and Bassinet (sold separately).

Stroller for One Child: Enjoy different strolling modes with the little one depending on the desired activity or mood of your passenger. Utilize the Stroller Seat or your Nuna Pipa series infant car seat in either parent-facing or forward-facing mode, or simply pop on the handy and super comfortable Bassinet, to let baby enjoy a snooze on the go.

Double Stroller for a Toddler and a Newborn: Expecting a new bundle of joy? The DEMI Next is easily transformed from a single to a double stroller to make way for the new little one. Simply add a Sibling Seat and you are ready for adventures with double the fun. You have the flexibility to position the newborn in the upper seat closer to you to provide added attention, while your toddler can stroll comfortably in the lower seat while they gain independence.

Double Stroller for Twin Babies: Preparing for twin bundles of joy? The DEMI Next has you double-covered. Stroll your twins in style with either two Pipa infant car seats or two Bassinets, and accommodate both your little passengers comfortably and safely as they grow and their shifting needs change

Tag-a-long with the Rider Board: Create additional flexibility and travel options for your growing family and provide a cool ride for a toddler up to 50 lbs. The Rider Board easily attaches to the back of the stroller and gives a safe platform for your older tag-a-long passenger.  

Stylish Color Options:

The Nuna DEMI Next will be available in three stylish color options that are sure to make a statement, whatever your fashion preference:

  • Caviar (Black fabrics, black frame, saddle brown leatherette handles)
  • Granite (Grey fabrics, black frame, saddle brown leatherette handles)
  • Biscotti (Tan fabrics, black frame, dark brown leatherette handles)

Key Features DEMI Next Stroller:

  • 25+ modes–convert from a single stroller to a double or twin and use the included rider board or sibling seat accessory (sold separately)
  • Super easy to fold, flip the seat, or convert to bassinet or car seat mode
  • Four recline positions and an upright backrest angle for just-right rides
  • Easily adjust recline with just one hand
  • Forward and rear-facing seat options
  • One-touch rear-wheel braking system for scuff-free shoe control
  • Custom dual suspension™ provides a nice, smooth ride
  • Wide, swivel-lock front wheels make it a master of smooth riding motion
  • One-hand adjustable calf support and footrest to accommodate growth
  • Self-guiding MagneTech secure snap™ buckles automatically lock into place
  • Quick-release 3 to 5-point harness makes it easy to fasten them in
  • Fenders and built-in hub caps protect from dirt and debris
  • Easily removable premium Merino wool insert provides ultra-soft comfort
  • Eye-to-eye connection is easier with the elevated seat level
  • Rotating and removable armbar fits kids of all sizes
  • Water-repellent UPF 50+ Aire protect canopy™ protects from the elements
  • Built-in privacy drape and ventilation panels in the canopy for ideal airflow
  • All-season seat keeps baby cozy in winter and easily converts to mesh in summer
  • Tires are tough, foam-filled, and ready for any terrain
  • No-rethread harness makes it easy to adjust for comfort and growth
  • Large basket with 22 lb. capacity holds everything you need for the journey
  • Adjustable pushbar with luxe leatherette accents to accommodate varying heights
  • Included rain cover for when the weather doesn't cooperate
  • Compatible with the DEMI next sibling seat and DEMI next bassinet

Key Features DEMI Next Rider Board:

  • Creates more riding options for family travels made easy
  • Cleverly positions your child between your arms for closeness
  • Easily attaches to the stroller's lower seat mounts
  • Two swivel wheels for easy maneuvering
  • Holds up to 50 lbs.
  • Flips into the stroller basket when not in use
  • Folds with stroller

Choose the Car Seat That's Right For You:

The Nuna DEMI Next stroller can be quickly converted into a convenient travel system. The travel system on this listing includes your choice of either the Nuna Aire, the Nuna PIPA RX or the Nuna PIPA Aire RX infant car seat. All three of these car seats offer unsurpassed safety standards, lightweight and stylish design and premium materials that are free of chemical flame retardants. The chart below provides a snapshot of the key differences between the three PIPA car seats available for this travel bundle:

Key Features Nuna® PIPA™ Aire Infant Car Seat:

  • The PIPA aire is both ultra-portable and seriously protective
  • PIPA aire is the lightest in the PIPA series infant car seat lineup
  • One-handed vehicle and stroller release for easy in an outs
  • Fabrics and inserts are conveniently machine washable
  • Belt path for vehicle belt installation
  • FAA certified for aircraft use with or without a base
  • Connects with all Nuna strollers (and their adapters as appropriate) to create a stylish travel system
  • Features Aeroflex™ foam that is cleverly lightweight, resilient, and minimizes force transferred to baby
  • Steel-reinforced True lock™ base installation makes set up swift, simple, and safe
  • Side Impact Protection (SIP) for ultimate baby safe keeping
  • The deep seat design creates a cocoon-like space, ensuring a better fit and comfortable car seat for your baby.
  • 5-point harness keeps baby’s travels secure
  • Tailor tech™ memory foam headrest provides a comfortable custom fit
  • Removable infant head and body inserts nestle baby in comfort and security
  • UPF 50+ canopy with flip-out eyeshade protects from sun exposure
  • The iconic Sky drape™ provides baby with ultimate privacy for quiet moments
  • Luxe leatherette carry handle for more secure gripping
  • Exposed aerospace aluminum handle adds a contemporary aesthetic and enhances the seat's intuitive functionality
  • Soft yet durable micro-knit fabric for refined style and casual warmth
  • From fabric to foam and beyond each element is smartly sourced to be both flame resistant and contain no added fire-retardant chemicals making it safer for baby

Key Features Nuna® PIPA™ RX Infant Car Seat:

  • From fabric to foam and beyond, each element is smartly sourced to be both flame resistant and contain no added fire retardant chemicals
  • Side impact protection for ultimate baby safe keeping
  • Comfy organic jersey insert is removable for growing babies
  • Integrated harness holders help when buckling baby in
  • Luxe leatherette accented carry handle. Tote elegantly with ease
  • Five point harness keeps little ones in place
  • Two-piece removable infant insert + head support. Customize to their individual shape and get a perfect fit right from birth
  • Mesh peek-a-boo window in canopy
  • Heavy duty shell is super resilient yet lightweight
  • Lightweight carry handle is ergonomically designed to tote with ease
  • FAA certified for aircraft use
  • True lock™ installation makes set up swift, simple and above all – safe
  • 5 second install
  • Crumple zone within the stability leg absorbs impact and minimizes force transferred to baby
  • Colored installation indicators confirm correct connections to the vehicle
  • Bubble free recline angle guides clearly confirm the perfect riding angle
  • Low profile base for easier loading of infant seat
  • Open belt path for easier install
  • Belt guides
  • Anti-rebound panel
  • Automatic rigid latch storage
  • Extra convenient stability leg storage with lock
  • Steel reinforced true lock™ rigid latch
  • Lock off with easy access belt path
  • Indicators on rigid latch turn green when clicked to vehicle anchor points
  • Indicators on stability leg turn green when in proper contact with vehicle floor
  • GREENGUARD Gold Certified: Products that have achieved GREENGUARD Gold Certification are scientifically proven to meet some of the world's most rigorous third-party chemical emissions standards, and certified to not contribute to indoor air pollution or chemical exposure

Key Features Nuna® PIPA™ Aire RX Infant Car Seat:

  • FAA certified for aircraft use with or without a base
  • Connects with all Nuna strollers to create a stylish travel system*
  • 5-second steel-reinforced True lock™ installation makes set up swift, simple, and safe**
  • Side Impact Protection (SIP) for ultimate baby safekeeping
  • Open belt path with lock off secures lap and shoulder belt
  • Features Aeroflex™ foam that is cleverly lightweight, resilient, and minimizes force transferred to baby
  • The deep seat design creates a cocoon-like space, ensuring a better fit and comfortable car seat for your baby.
  • 3-position height-adjustable headrest and 5-point harness keeps little ones in place
  • Removable infant head and body inserts nestle baby in comfort and security
  • Tailor tech™ memory foam seat panel and headrest provides a comfortable custom fit
  • UPF 50+ canopy with 2 positions and a flip-out eyeshade protects from sun exposure
  • The iconic Sky drape™ provides baby with ultimate privacy for quiet moments
  • Soft yet durable micro-knit fabric for refined style and casual warmth
  • Super-resilient top-of-the-line plastics for a heavy-duty secure shell
  • Exposed aerospace aluminum handle adds a contemporary aesthetic and enhances the seat's intuitive functionality
  • Luxe leatherette carry handle for more secure gripping
  • From fabric to foam and beyond each element is smartly sourced to be both flame-resistant and contain no added fire-retardant chemicals making it safer for baby
  • Infant head and body inserts are made of environmentally friendly Merino wool and TENCEL™ lyocell fiber blend that is soft, naturally controls moisture, and is environmentally friendly
  • GREENGUARD Gold Certified to meet some of the world's most rigorous third-party chemical emissions standards, and certified to not contribute to indoor air pollution or chemical exposure
  • Additional GOTS organic cotton infant insert and harness cover set

Upon selecting a specific car seat on the order page, your corresponding car seat base will be identified and automatically included with your travel bundle.  

  • Nuna® PIPA™ Aire Infant Car Seat + PIPA Series Base
  • Nuna® PIPA™ RX Infant Car Seat + RELX base
  • Nuna® PIPA™ Aire RX Infant Car Seat + RELX base

To help you make an informed choice, we have also outlined the key differences between the PIPA Series base and the RELX base in the comparison chart below: 

Key Features Nuna® PIPA™  Series Base:

  • 5-second install with two easy and instant steps.  Please note to always refer to the product instruction manual. Under no circumstances should this information be used to replace the car seat instruction booklet
  • True lock™ rigid latch is 50% stronger than a typical belt latch
  • Steel stability leg helps minimize forward rotation during impact by up to 90% when compared to a system that is not using a stability leg
  • Colored installation indicators confirm correct connections to the vehicle and car seat to base
  • Bubble level indicators help to minimize user error
  • Super-resilient top-of-the-line plastics for a heavy duty, secure shell
  • Anchor latch guides make it easy to locate and install on lower anchor bars

Key Features Nuna® PIPA™ RELX Base:

  • Crumple zone within the stability leg absorbs impact and minimizes force transferred to baby
  • Colored installation indicators confirm correct connections
  • Low profile base for super easy loading
  • Easy vehicle seat belt install provides options
  • Latch and stability leg neatly store away when not in use
  • Anchor latch guides make it easy to locate and install on lower anchor bars

Specifications:

DEMI Next Stroller:

Recommended Use:

  • Weight: Birth to 50 lbs.
  • When using the stroller frame with the bassinet or infant carrier, refer to the child usage requirements listed in those instruction manuals.
  • Product Weight: 26 lbs. (without winter seat, canopy, armbar, or rider board)
  • Carton Weight: 49.2 lbs.
  • Open Dimensions: H43.5 in. x L39.5 in. x W24 in.
  • Folded Dimensions: H35 in. x L23.5 in. x W24 in.
  • Nuna's Manufacturer Warranty from defects: 2 years

PIPA Aire Infant Car Seat:

Recommended Use: 

  • 4 to 30 lbs, and 16 to 30 in.
  • Car seat dimensions  L 27.25 in  W 17.5 in  H 23 in 
  • Weight: 6 lbs (without canopy and inserts - canopy and inserts approx. 1.8 lb)

PIPA RX Infant Car Seat:

Recommended Use: 

  • 4 to 32 lbs, and 16 to 32 in.
  • Car seat dimensions:  L 25.2 in  W 17.5 in  H 23 in 
  • Weight: 7.6 lbs (without canopy and inserts - canopy and insert approx. 1 lb)

PIPA Aire RX Infant Car Seat:

Recommended Use:

  • 4 to 30 lbs, and 16 to 30 in.
  • Car seat dimensions: L 27.25 in W 17.5 in H 23 in
  • Weight: 6.2 lbs (without canopy and inserts - canopy and inserts approx. 2.2 lb)

Compatibility:

  • DEMI Next stroller is compatible with all Nuna series infant car seats
  • DEMI Next stroller is compatible with both DEMI grow Bassinet and DEMI grow Sibling Seat.
  • New Rider board is only compatible with the Demi Next stroller and not sold separately. There are no future plans to market as an accessory.
  • Bassinet: For use on DEMI bassinet stand and DEMI series strollers only

 

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When a Mormon girl joined our school when I was in the fifth grade, I became curious about Mormonism, though never enough to read much about it. That curiosity eventually morphed into curiosity about Joseph Smith, its founder. How does one go about establishing a new religion? In nineteenth-century America, no less? One salient point in Fawn Brodie's biography of Smith (b. 1805, d. 1844) is that the years of his youth and early manhood "were the most fertile in America's history for the sprouting of prophets." William Miller, John Humphrey Noyes, Jemima Wilkinson, Joseph Dylks. Smith, then, was not an isolated phenomenon. Another salient point: before the angel Moroni directed him to the book of golden plates that he then translated and published as the Book of Mormon, Smith was a practitioner of necromancy and advertised his ability to divine buried deposits of gold and money. Brodie seems to like Smith. She portrays him as gregarious, imbued with great personal charm, having a quick mind, and genuinely fond of people. She also writes that "embedded in [his] character was the commonplace Yankee mixture of piety and avarice," which "he developed to a special flowering." That special flowering was a religious con man, one who eventually inhabited the fabulous castles of his own devising. By the 1840s and the settlement of Nauvoo, Smith was using his position as spiritual and political head of the Mormon community for his own, secret, monetary gain. And then there was his concupiscence. In his later years, he took somewhere between twenty-seven and fifty wives; not all but many of those marriages were consummated sexually. The practice of "plural wives" of course received theological blessing (or rationalization), but even so Smith could be both sneaky and high-handed in pursuing it. For example, in April 1843 his wife Emma went to St. Louis on business with Lorin Walker, one of Smith's business aides. During their absence Smith asked Walker's seventeen-year-old sister Lucy to become his wife. According to Lucy, his proposal/seduction went like this: "I have no flattering words to offer. It is a command of God to you. I will give you until tomorrow to decide this matter. If you reject this message, the gate will be closed forever against you." In many respects, Joseph Smith seems to have been a quintessential American. Similarly, his Mormonism seems a fittingly American religion. Along the same lines, Brodie sees the Book of Mormon as "one of the earliest examples of frontier fiction, the first long Yankee narrative that owes nothing to English literary fashions. Except for the borrowings from the King James Bible, its sources are absolutely American. * * * Its matter is drawn directly from the American frontier, from the impassioned revivalist sermons, the popular fallacies about Indian origin, and the current political crusades." NO MAN KNOWS MY HISTORY quells my curiosity regarding Joseph Smith. It also serves as a history of the early Mormon Church and a window on the United States circa 1820 to 1845. The book's style is somewhat old-fashioned (it originally was published in 1945), and as history it is more scholarly than popular. There is a lot of detail, much more than I really wanted. (Smith would make an ideal subject for a pithy two-hundred-page biography.) Most importantly, I sense that the biography is objective. In that regard, it should be noted that before becoming an esteemed professor of history at UCLA, Fawn Brodie grew up a devout Mormon in a small hamlet outside Ogden, Utah. In 1946, she was summarily excommunicated from the Mormon Church as a heretic. In 2012, James Reston, Jr. wrote that NO MAN KNOWS MY HISTORY "remains today the definitive work on the Mormon prophet."
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If you want a good understanding of the history of the Mormon church, this is the book. Mormons don't like it and wont read it because they have been told not to read it. But Brodie was a solid historian and I think any courageous Mormon should read it and challenge their own beliefs (or if you will, there own inculcations). I have a number of good friends who are Mormon, I don't criticize their compassion and commitment to family. I do question their theology. Here are the questions that occurred to me after reading Brodie's book. Preamble: In order for something to be valid, the source and the content need to be credible. If the source is not credible, the content is held suspect. If the content is not credible, the source is held suspect. Would I trust someone who spoke of peace and preached bloodthirsty war? Would I trust someone who called drinking a sin but set up bar in his own house? Would I trust someone who said he was faithful to his wife, when all the while committing adultery? Would I trust someone who has so-called revelations from God that are clearly self-serving? Would I trust someone who claims that he is reading Egyptian when the text is really Greek? Would I trust someone who said he was given golden tablets from God—tablets that were conveniently returned to heaven? Would I trust someone who declared he was the only prophet on earth? REVELATIONS (Can we follow a prophet who is so self serving?) 1. Changes Genesis to include a prophesy of the coming of Joseph Smith. Isaiah made to refer to the book of Mormon and the witnesses. 2. Doesn’t want to be a farmer. “In temporal labors thou shalt not have strength, for this is not thy calling.” Book of Commandments, Chapter 25, verse 14 3. Emma wants JS to be a farmer. New revelation: “Thou needest not fear, for thy husband shall support thee from the Church. Continue in the spirit of meekness and beware of pride. Let thy soul delight in thy husband…And except thou do this, where I am you cannot come.” Book of commandments Chapter 26, pp58-59 FB90 4. Cowdrey thought that others should share in revelations (including Hiram Page who was trying to get revelation with a black stone). JS has a new revelation: “”behold, I say unto thee, Oliver…no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this Church, excepting my servant JS, Junior, for he receiveth them even as Moses. Thou shalt take thy brother Hiram page, between him and thee alone, and tell him that those things which he had written from that stone, are not of me, and that Satan deceiveth him.” FB92 5. Revelation to give all property to JS: “Behold, thou shalt consecrate all thy properties, that which thou hast unto me, with a covenant and a deed which cannot be broken and they shall be laid before the bishop of my church” Book of Commandments. Later revised.FB106 6. In Kirtland, Ohio, JS tries to heal a man with a withered hand, a lame man, a dead child. Fails. New revelation: “Thirty men to leave at once for Missouri” Why? The miracles could not be performed in Ohio, because it was not consecrated ground, that only in the Promised Land could the blind be made to see, the lame to walk, and the dead be quickened. Doctrines and Covenants, sec 52 FB112 7. Resentment in Zion (Independence Missouri) against Joseph’s absence: “Cease wearying me concerning this matter.” Doctrine and Covenants, Section 90. FB122 8. Arguments about how to parcel out the community property. So JS has a revelation giving him the temple lot. FB141 9. JS revelation directing Cowdery to go to Toronto where they would find a man anxious to buy the book of Mormon. Didn’t happen. FB81 10. JS revelation to deal with Martin Harris. “And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thine own property, but impart it freely to the printing of the Book of Mormon…And misery thou shalt receive if thou wilt slight these counsels, yea, even the destruction of thyself and property…Pay the printer’s debt! Release thyself from bondage.” (Book of commandments, Chapter 16) Thoroughly scared, he sold his farm and the book was printed in 1830. FB82 11. In Missouri on a high bluff overlooking Grand River someone discovered the ruins of what seemed to be an altar. JS: “This Upon this very altar Adam himself offered up sacrifices to Jehovah. Here Adam shall come to visit his people.” The Far West is probably where Cain killed Abel. FB211 12. Polygamy. Revelation: Destroy Emma and give me 10 virgins. FB 341 Doctrine and Covenant 132 13. The president presides over the whole church. Doctrine and Covenants 107 14. JS revelation to build a hotel with a suite of rooms in the hotel for JS and his posterity “from generation to generation for ever and ever.” FB263 15. Revelation to bless Bennett FB268. Later Bennett is excommunicated when both Bennett and JS lusted after Nancy Rigdon See JS’s letter to Nancy: FB310 In The History of the Church. Unsigned letter—nice use of artifice. PROBLEMATIC THEOLOGY (Can theology so convoluted and false be believed?) 1. Nephi and his brothers and father Lehi (as in Lehigh River) leave Jerusalem in 600 BC. Nephi’s brothers, Laman and Lemuel were evil-tempered brothers, God cursed them and all their descendants with a red skin. (So indians are cursed?) Nephi and his pious younger brothers begat white children (although they must have married evil redskins to multiply). 2. JS has Jared bringing horses, swine, sheep, cattle, and asses to America. The Nephites produce wheat and barley rather than the indigenous maize and potatoes. FB72 3. Revisionist. 2500 BC Jared sailed in barges that could sail anyside up. The Book of Ether. (FB p 71) 4. Witness of the plates. In the Lord’s name, “It is by your faith that you shall obtain a view of them…And ye shall testify that you have seen them…And if you do these last commandments of mine, which I have given you, the gates of hell shall not prevail against you.” (FB 76) 5. Lorenzo Snow: “As man is, God once was; and as God is, man may become.” (FB300) 6. Paul had said that in heaven there would be no marriage or giving in marriage, but Joseph taught that this would not apply to his Saints. That which he and his elders sealed on earth would be binding also in heaven. There a man would have not only his wives and children, but also the prerogative of procreating more, until, as he expressed it to Parley Pratt, “the result of our endless union would be offspring as numerous as the stars of heaven. This was the road to godhood. (FB299) 7. Three levels of heaven: Celestial (three levels), terrestrial, teletrial. 8. If a man went to heaven with ten wives, he would have more than tenfold the blessings of a mere monogamist, for all the children begotten through these wives would enhance his kingdom. The man with only one wife, on the other hand, would be denied even her and forced to spend eternity as a ministering angel rather than a god. (FB300) 9. Martin Harris, one of the witnesses, is having his own visions: Seen Jesus in the shape of a deer and talked with him. The devil resembled a jackass with short hair similar to a mouse. He prophesied that by 1838 Joseph’s church would be so large that there would be no need for a president of the US. [No surprise given that he is one of the credulous witnesses.] 10. JS goes to Canada for 5 weeks. When he returns, his three witnesses (Harris, Cowdrey, and David Whitmer—all later excommunicated) had turned their loyalty to a young girl seer of a black stone. Patterning herself after the Shakers, the new prophetess would dance into exhaustion, fall upon the floor, and burst forth with revelations. Harris is cutoff. FB205 QUESTION: Don’t you question the veracity of the witnesses who are so easily duped? SPURIOUS ASSERTIONS (Can we give credence to so many discrepancies and inconsistencies?) 1. Of the 11 witnesses of the Book of Mormon only Joseph’s father and brothers were left in the church. The others either left or were excommunicated. 2. View of the Hebrews. Oliver Cowdery, transcriber, came from Vermont; mother and sister were members of Ethan Smith’s church. Ethan Smith, author of View of the Hebrews (1823) and lectured in JS’s town. B.H Roberts Mormon apologist, wrote his opinion in 1922, but not published until 1985 (Roberts died in 1933). 1985 Dallin Oaks “The fact that something is true is not always a justification for communicating it. Some things that are true are not edifying or appropriate to communicate.” 3. 1835, exhibition of mummies. JS pronounces the papyrus writings of Abraham and the Joseph of Egypt. They were ordinary funeral documents as found on thousands of Egyptian graves. FB171, 175 4. Cowdery excommunicated for accusing JS of adultery. FB182 5. 1836 JS goes to Salem on a Treasure hunt for gold as ordered by God. There is none to be found. FB 192 Doctrine and Covenants 111 6. JS has three versions of first visit from angels: 1. The lord 2. Two persons 3. God and Jesus. And his age changes from 14 to 16. The last version was the only one known by believers until 1965. FB409 JOSEPH SMITH’S CHARACTER (To quote Matthew, “By their fruits you will know them.” Joseph Smith’s behavior shows him to be petulant, imperious, arrogant, hypocritical, belligerent, bellicose, irascible, manipulative, fraudulent, adulterous, and mendacious. (Can we put our trust in someone with so many character flaws?) 1. Arrogant: Character: Requested and received from the Governor the commission of lieutenant-general. He often preferred the title of “General,” even to “president,” and used it in his correspondence. His uniform included gold braid, military boots and chapeau topped with ostrich feathers. On his hip a sword and two big horse pistols. Seated on a magnificent black stallion. FB272 2. Arrogant: Runs for president of US for publicity and respect.FB262 3. Arrogant: He was not only a US presidential candidate, but also mayor of Nauvoo, judge of the municipal court, merchant of the leading store, hotel keeper, official temple architect, real estate agent, contractor, recorder of deeds, steamboat owner, trustee in trust for all the finances of the church, lieutenant general of the Nauvoo Legion, spiritual adviser and Lord’s communicant to the true church, King of the new Kingdom of god (see FB356), and husband of almost 50 wives.” In Joseph Smith’s words: “I want the liberty of thinking and believing as I please. It feels so good not to be trammeled.” FB366 4. Hypocritical: Permitted the construction of a brewery and advertised in the Nauvoo Neighbor. FB289 5. Hypocritical: JS sets up a bar in his hotel until Emma protests FB 332 6. Petulant and irascible: Sylvester Smith and the bulldog “I’ll whip you in the name of the Lord. And if you continue in the same spirit and don’t repent, that dog will eat the flesh off your bones and shall not have the power to resist!” History of the Church, Vol II, pp 150-160. FB 150 7. Bellicose: War Speech “We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean.” FB230 (Source Affidavits from seven followers. FB229) 8. Bellicose: War cry: “If mobs come upon you any more here, dung your gardens with them” FB352 History of the Church.Vol 5, pp 465-73 9. Bellicose: JS empties all six barrels of a pepperbox gun in the prison cell. FB393 10. Imposter: He doesn’t know Greek from Egyptian FB290 11. Fraudulent and Mendacious: JS forces leaders to perjure themselves, swearing that polygamy does not exist. These sworn statements were published in Times and Seasons, Vol III in October 1842. JS had already been married to Sarah Ann Whitney 3 months earlier—and 19 others. FB320-21, 335. 12. Fraudulent: To take care of debt, he creates an illegal bank and starts stamping out money, designating himself as cashier. History of the Church, Vol 11, p 471 FB194 13. Manipulative (and criminal): He had the city council pass an ordinance providing that if any officer came to Nauvoo with a writ for his arrest based on the old Missouri difficulties, he should be arrested, tried, and if found guilty sentence to life imprisonment in the city jail. He could only be pardoned by JS. FB355 7. Manipulative and mendacious. William Laws (mentioning no names but swearing that he had read the revelation of every man granted 10 virgins) of The Expositor reports story of polygamy. JS proclaims that the press must be destroyed and so it was. FB374-377 (Reminds me of Dallin Oats: “The fact that something is true is not always a justification for communicating it. Some things that are true are not edifying or appropriate to communicate.” 14. Mendacious: 1844: “What a thing it is for a man to be accused for committing adultery, and having seven wives, when I can find only one. I am the same man, and as innocent as I was fourteen years ago, and I can prove them all perjurers.” History of the Church, Vol VI, pp 408-412. FB 374 He had 48 wives as early by 1844. FB335
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James Larsen
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Professor Joseph L. McCauley
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★★★★★ 5
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This is carefully researched and well-written book. I felt that I needed to read it, I wanted to read it, after reading Jon Krakauer's 'Under the Banner of Heaven' After all, the flds religion of today is essentially the original religion created by Joseph Smith, who was a premier snake oil salesman. If you've ever wondered where religions come from then here we have the history of one that formed and grew on American soil early in the 19th century in the soil of rebellion tilled by the American Revolution. Brodie covers the influence on Smith and others of the atmosphere of revivalism. One can in any case ask: how can anyone take the Book of Mormon seriously, but then how can anyone take the Book of Mark seriously? What is clear to me is that Mormonism is not Christianity, Smith used parts of Christianity as a takeoff point and revised them ala Moroni. This is not new in the history of religion, Mohammed revised and used parts of the Old Testament as a takeoff point for writing the Koran. The tale of Noah and the flood in the Old Testament was preceded by an earlier Summerian flood tale. Smith wrote in the era before the ideas of evolution of animals and evolution of the earth had come into being; he apparently lifted the tale of the American Indians' origin as Jewish from another book ms. The speculation that they are descended from one of two lost tribes of Israel who came to America is built centrally into the Book of Mormon Then he added that they were visited in America by Jesus, who descended from heaven (another archaic notion). Well, there was no effective way to challenge such hokeyness in Smith's day. We now know from DNA testing that the tale of the Indians' origin as Jewish holds no water. Nor does the rest of the book of moroni. Brodie's history is invaluable because it comes as close as you can get to describing the formation of a mass religion from the grass roots. Next time two starry-eyed, shiny-faced, tie-and-suited young men arrive at your doorstep on bicycles, you might consider offering them a good physics and/or biology book as antidote to the delusions that they're peddling,
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Roger Douglass
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★★★★★ 5
Stuff They Don't Teach You In Church
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Fawn Brodie did her research and cites primarily sources from LDS sources such as journals from people who knew Joseph Smith and from Joseph Smith himself. I trust that the information is reliable. I learned more about Joseph Smith than I was ever taught in Sunday School or LDS seminary. Fawn Brodie does speculate in some areas, such as Joseph's motives but she supports her assumptions with evidence, again, from primary sources. It was a quick read for me. I did have to get out a dictionary at some places, which is rare for me. Brodie paints a picture of the Joseph Smith that very few people knew. I enjoyed reading this book. I recommend it for LDS church members who want to know the history of one of enigmatic people in history, the founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The book points out not just the negative aspects of Joseph's life but Brodie balances it with the positive. Unlike Charles Manson, Jim Jones, or David Koresh, Joseph Smith truly cared about his followers and treated people well. I don't like how he seduced women, however and that detracts from his character. I do think he was a con man, however.
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